Curse

Saintly Izumi · Aug 17, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Hello all! This is for you guys out there who have been browsing the farming builds section and noticed Rezdoggs Rt/Mo 330hp Build but either don't have a Ritualist or have a Ritualist but haven't gone as far in the game with it as your monk. (The latter was the reason I experimented with my monk)

First of all I want to say that this is based on Rezdoggs build. Actually, this IS Rezdoggs build but I just wanted to help the people out there wondering if the same build can be done with a monk. Now if you're a monk and have brought your HP down to 330 and found that you die due to the lacking return of HP provided by VwK, bringing the health down to 265 with the help of Majors/Superiors should in fact give you some nice health return. Now I know some guys out there are gonna say that the Rt/Mo build is faster and Indeed it is, but the Mo/Rt variation isn't too bad. Now I'm going to post a couple of screen shots that should explain everything.

Note: As a monk, instead of 42 max damage on Reversal of damage it returns 70 due to the higher smiting prayers giving larger damage return to attackers.

Here are screenshots of the build in action, Drops to confirm the build and Information on skills and weapons. If you need any more info just ask here or actually, it would be better if you go to Rezdoggs thread due to the fact that this is virtually the SAME build. Just modified to suit the monks out there. RezDoggs thread has alot more info from various people and you may find your answer there. I've only tested in HM Fahranur, The First City so if you guys could test in the places where the Rt/Mo variation is viable in and confirm the build that would be sweet.

Attributes
Simiting 10+1+3
Protection 8+2
Divine 2+2 (Any left overs)
Restoration 12

Rune Set-Up
15AL
Smiting Scalp design of Superior Smiting Prayers
Chest of Major Divine Favor
Gloves of Major Protection Prayers
Pants of Superior Smiting
Sandals of Attunement

These should bring you down to 265 HP.

So now the Screenshots

DISREGARD THE ATTRIBUTES PLEASE! Older version of the attribute spread.

In action

On some Scale

Thanks for reading! Hope it helps.

deadlytiger · Aug 17, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

WoW this build is very very well set up. I Usually use my mo/d but this works very well. Do you know if the warrior VwK build can do this??

Saintly Izumi · Aug 17, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

It probably can but It would be slow because no Retribution and Reversal of damage...although you can substitute both for the two ripostes.

ReZDoGG · Aug 17, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

RoD does 42 dmg on my build with 8 Smiting. And your build will only do 8 damage from retribution, ur just gettin holy x2 damage on undead. So if you were to use it else were, you would only do 37 (29+8) damage compared to 47 (37+10). And your Vengeful Weapon only does 51 compared to 63. And RoD does same amount of damage as mine does, which is 42. RoD will do 84 damage against undead. this works, but its alot slower than my build. Only advantage is longer lasting Prot. Spirit. Possibly better just to use the ol' 600hp SoJ Monk with Spirit Bond.

Saintly Izumi · Aug 17, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

So I tried increasing my smiting prayers and It seems to kill groups faster now due to the change in smiting prayers and the 70 damage offered by reversal of damage. Good stuff. Retribution, it seems, does the same amount of damage so nothing changed there. Also I did say that the Rt/Mo build is probably faster. I tested the speed of my Rit/Mo build on Normal mode jade brotherhood warriors outside market place and it seems the killing time is only 3-4 seconds slower than using the Rit/Mo build.

«Ripskin · Aug 17, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

I tried this, and I think it's more effort then it's worth. I'm going to ele nuke farm the scale now xD

Saintly Izumi · Aug 17, 2007, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by «Ripskin

I tried this, and I think it's more effort then it's worth. I'm going to ele nuke farm the scale now xD

Yeah it does require some spamming to kill the skale but really It can farm all the other places that the Rt/Mo version can so its versatile enough to handle the other places. I just wanted to make a monk version to help the others who dont have a rit. I don't thinks its more trouble than its worth though...

«Ripskin · Aug 17, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Oh and also, I find it's easier to just go 55 mo/whatever you fancy with Shield and hands, more damage and what not. Youc an probably also hit the scale with that, in fact, It hink I'll go do that.

Saintly Izumi · Aug 17, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Yeah I've been using the 55HP Mo/D but i find it kills scales slower especially in the larger group that spawns near the shrine. I don't think the Mo/D does more damage time wise because the skale are knocked down with SoJ thus slowing down the killing speed. Also they scatter once they get down to a certain amount of health so they don't bunch back up unless you kill one of the skale still hitting you. with this build the recharge on VwK and shorter and the damage much greater due to the absence of knockdown to slow things down. I can honestly say i am able to take down half of those skale and kill them then then kill the other half faster than aggroing the whole group or portions of the group and trying to kill them with soj cause its going to be incredibly slow. So basically the Mo/D does more damage on the hit BUT kills MUCH SLOWER than the Mo/Rt. It may be "safer" but if you've been doing this run as much as I have you can handle it. I've been using the Mo/D build for quite a while but I can say from personal experience that it is indeed slower than the Mo/Rt or the Rt/Mo. Survivability isn't a problem if you keep on top of the spirit bond and keep it up when VwK is down or your health gets below 50 percent.

MrSlayer · Aug 17, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Why not switch out the attunement for a vigor to boost your hp for retribution?

Anyhow, a nice build ^^ Im a huge fan of the 330hp rit, and this looks just as fun :]

«Ripskin · Aug 18, 2007, 12:10 AM // 00:10

Hmmm, I think I've uncovered a gold mine :\

I'm gonna make a new thread about this..

First drop, of them all, lol

ReZDoGG · Aug 18, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

I tweaked a monk version of Mo/Rt. I was going to add it to my 330hp thread, but I figured I might as well make a seperate thread for people that won't look at my other build because they have no ritualist. Tweaked version uses 601hp, and will put out 47-48 damage with VwK and Retribution. It doesn't use Vengeful Weapon or RoD. But the higher health and Smiting will do the job faster than the build u got now... And no need to spam any skills.

[QUOTE=«Ripskin]Hmmm, I think I've uncovered a gold mine :\

I'm gonna make a new thread about this..
QUOTE]

Alot of people farm them Skale when farming The First City

Saintly Izumi · Aug 18, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Nice. I wanna see this new build sounds sweet.

ReZDoGG · Aug 18, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36

I just posted it... here is the link anyways

Mo/Rt 600hp Vengeful Spirit Bonder (Rt/Mo 330hp Alternative)

«Ripskin · Aug 18, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

[QUOTE=ReZDoGG][QUOTE=«Ripskin]Hmmm, I think I've uncovered a gold mine :\

I'm gonna make a new thread about this..

Quote:

Alot of people farm them Skale when farming The First City

Yeah I know that now :\
But oh well, I want to see some builds that only farm this. Like 5 minute runs, I'm convinced that I should farm here for awhile, lol.

I'm trying to figure out a way for my ele to survive those necros and eles, I'm thinking run them under the big ass hammer and killing them that way.

ReZDoGG · Aug 18, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

might as well let this thread die

and let everyone go to my thread for Mo/Rt. sorry bout that. heh.

Saintly Izumi · Aug 18, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

I definitely think that this variation of Mo/Rt is as fun to use as the Rt/Mo. I don't appreciate it that you would just say that my thread should just die.

doinit · Aug 18, 2007, 02:04 AM // 02:04

I like this build been using something like it for awhile had a few things changed though this gets the job done better

Vexed · Aug 18, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

might as well let this thread die

and let everyone go to my thread for Mo/Rt. sorry bout that. heh.

Rez, your builds are great and all, but this build works just fine. Comments like that one are just lame.

Saintly Izumi · Aug 18, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Thanks Vexed. I felt that the comment he made was rude.